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No Maple Syrup by 2100? | Mother Jones

Seeded on Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:17 PM EST
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global-warming, environment, climate-change
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Global warming isn't something that's going to happen, it's already happening.

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Even if you don't care about the environment this has negative economic impacts.

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Reply#1 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:18 PM EST
ivorybill

I do not care about:...................No, the enviroment I do care. I do not care about the multimillion dollar New Hampshire maple syrup industry or it's tourism. Veneration for Nature and it's economy is the only true economy I have sympathy for. This sickness she has noticed within the trees, is noticed in all latitudes and longitudes by some of virtue, but not by those majority of complacent Homo sapiens. She has indirectly contributed to the encroachment insomuch as anyone. Self-inflicted, these wounds of mankind. Our pursuits to wealth are aimed so earthly low, and are too contagious for Earth to endure.

    Reply#2 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:54 PM EST
    bore-head007

    Yep. That woman, sugaring in Sandwich Notch sure is a reflection of the 1%!

    That little sugar shack IS the Maple syrup industry.

    To insinuate this lady is a destructive industrialist is pretty shallow.

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    #2.1 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:00 PM EST
    mf-3735877

    ivorybill - Do you have...

    a feeling of (usually) smug moral superiority derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.

    Seriously? So man and nature are separate? And any action of mankind is inherently against nature? I certainly hope that's not what you're implying because if it is you're part of the problem. Self-righteousness won't help the cause of nature.

    I'm an environmentalist but I'm for pragmatic and balanced solutions. If it takes sweet-tooth's and leaf peepers to help I'm all for it.

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    #2.2 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:19 PM EST
    ivorybill

    No Sir.......I just have feelings, as most, but mine are always, most always thinking of Nature. Never had ambitions, unless someone stood up and blocked my view of Her. Never cared by incessanity to possess more than my flesh could carry, nor pondered in passion more than a headacke would succumb to, an heal. My nature has become intransigent for intricate reasons. Trying to be comprehensive in a vaque format, as the Vine, is challenging. Some are better writers than I. There always be those who think they know your business better than you, and arrogant to some social prefix bestowed to them. Nature holds every answer mankind could want to know, I suspect. It may one day show us our illusions of commerce, of prosperity, of posterity, were false. I care about human plight, but without the diversity in Nature, worrying about my brothers and sisters is futile. I have had homemade maple syrup given to me from people to whom I cared, along with homemade apple cyder, to which we shared.

      #2.3 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:29 PM EST
      mf-3735877

      I care about human plight, but without the diversity in Nature, worrying about my brothers and sisters is futile.

      It good and fine to be a self-declared mystic but mystics don't have a monopoly on thinking and caring about nature and its diversity. I don't believe it's futile to try to affect solutions that harmonize mankind with the rest of nature.

      I seeded this link as a challenge to global warming denial. One of the strategies of deniers is to change the topic from nature and science to economics. I wanted to point out that even if you apply an economic measure global warming is having a negative impact already. I too care about nature for nature's sake but to counter greedy, destructive, heartless exploitation of nature you have to be a realist or accept that you're not helping. And if you're not helping I think you're hurting.

      There's a book you might read called Radical Simplicity by Jim Merkel. I had the pleasure of meeting the author and talking with him for a while. As the title suggests Jim is into radical simplicity. He's a very smart guy who dropped out of corporate life to practice what he would eventually preach.

        #2.4 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:19 PM EST
        ivorybill

        Overpopulation is the reasom. People breed their way into poverty, and Nature goes down with us. I contribute what I can to Nature, and wish the best for our species, but hope we drastically descend in population for our salvation, whether or not some are just too ignorant to see.

        • 1 vote
        #2.5 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:33 PM EST
        mf-3735877

        ivorybill - Over population is a major problem, I agree.

          #2.6 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:00 PM EST
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          Castor Bridge

          How much do you think that the climate going to warm? One degree won't even be noticeable. The extra CO2 will help the trees grow faster and be healthier. The author claims that New England won't have seasons? No more winter? Don't you feel like he is insulting our intelligence?

            Reply#3 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:49 PM EST
            bore-head007

            It was 16 below last night. There is snow on the ground. I dream of the day when the buds crack open this spring.

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            #3.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:54 PM EST
            mf-3735877

            Castor - How nice of you to stop by. Figured you wouldn't miss a chance to deny global warming.

            Did you watch the video?

            The extra CO2 will help the trees grow faster and be healthier.

            The video documents that's not what's happening. The trees are producing less and getting sicker. I didn't see anything in the very short article about no seasons or no winter. Did I miss something?

              #3.2 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:08 PM EST
              mf-3735877

              BH - A couple of nights ago it was below zero here but tomorrow it'll be above 50. Warmest winter by far we've experienced where I live.

                #3.3 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:09 PM EST
                bore-head007

                I was jus sayin, mf! lol

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                #3.4 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:56 PM EST
                mf-3735877

                BH - Global warming is affecting my finances - I wasted my money on a snow-blower. Anyway I can't wait to get gardening and seeing the buds pop too.

                  #3.5 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:43 PM EST
                  bore-head007

                  Was talking to one of my hombres today that has a good sized snow contract, and he ain't made a dime!

                  When your game is construction, and its dead the preceding season, and you count on snow, and it don't come, it sucks.

                  Th' Hell with it. Pancakes 'n Syrup, while we can get it.

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                  #3.6 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST
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